Well, the Citroen is going kaputt. 

"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat) 08/17/2016 at 14:34 • Filed to: Fuck

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Third time this week I get the “gearbox failure” message and the transmission goes into limp mode (3rd gear). It only happens when downshifting on inclines, never on level ground. If I restart the car, the problem goes away.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 14:39

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Time to sell the Citroën and finally get the [insert name of unreliable European car here] you constantly post.

/Sorry I’m slightly drunk

KatzManDu > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 14:43

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It may be a simple solenoid or something that needs to be replaced, something that “forces” the downshift. They can get stuck.

My citroen won't start > KatzManDu 08/17/2016 at 14:44

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I sure hope so, this stuff should not happen on a 50k kilometer car.

My citroen won't start > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 08/17/2016 at 14:45

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If I ever replace the Citroen I’m probably buying a Legacy

KatzManDu > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 14:45

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Damn straight — do they have Citroen dealerships by you?

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 14:48

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I believe the preferred term is going “on strike.”

My citroen won't start > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 08/17/2016 at 14:48

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I only use premium fuel and wash it once a week. WHAT MORE COULD IT WANT?

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 14:48

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If that’s the case you better get this gen.

My citroen won't start > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 08/17/2016 at 14:50

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Nah, 2.5 GT.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 14:50

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It wants a 30 hour workweek, monthlong vacations, and four sick days per week. It also thinks that premium fuel is for the bourgeois.

Shift24 > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 14:51

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It’s French so 2 months vacation

My citroen won't start > KatzManDu 08/17/2016 at 14:52

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Yeah, but I’m 4 years out of warranty, not sure there is much they could do for me other than charge 1 million dollars for a rebuild.

KatzManDu > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 15:00

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Maybe there is a TSB? Any love on the forums?

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 15:01

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RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 15:02

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Hmmm, sounds like something “simple”, like a sensor...?

My citroen won't start > KatzManDu 08/17/2016 at 15:04

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Could not find similar problems on the this gen C5, the older ones yes.

My citroen won't start > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 08/17/2016 at 15:04

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Newer.

My citroen won't start > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 08/17/2016 at 15:05

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Hopefully, still need to take it to my mechanic, did not have the time to do it.

duurtlang > Shift24 08/17/2016 at 15:06

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Wait, that’s French?

I have 9 weeks of paid vacation a year and am not French. To be fair, I work more hours than what they pay me for (40 versus 36).

duurtlang > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 15:09

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It’s weird you have that many problems with a car that isn’t known for being troublesome. Anyway, who’s the manufacturer of that transmission? ZF?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 15:13

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I know where you can get a D2 for cheap...

My citroen won't start > duurtlang 08/17/2016 at 15:24

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This is the first actual problem (apart from that wheel bearing at 25k kilometers)

It’s a ZF 4 speed, quite sure it’s the ZF 4HP20

crowmolly > duurtlang 08/17/2016 at 15:27

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There’s a chance it’s not the transmission itself. Trans internals could be OK but there is a wiring issue/solenoid issue, etc.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 15:28

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That’s a point, I guess.

Cé hé sin > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 15:32

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If you have the second generation C5 in the picture, don’t you have the six speed? It’s by Aisin.

Clemsie McKenzie > duurtlang 08/17/2016 at 15:32

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It’s just not American. But shh, don’t tell them, let them believe we’re “socialists”. Ignorance is bliss!

My citroen won't start > Cé hé sin 08/17/2016 at 15:33

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It’s a 4 speed. But there is no info on 4 speed 3rd gen C5's, every single C5 that came to Brazil is a 4 speed.

Cé hé sin > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 15:38

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That’s odd. I suppose it’s a cost issue. ZF haven’t made four speed fwd boxes for a long time so I suppose it’s from some other supplier.

My citroen won't start > Cé hé sin 08/17/2016 at 15:40

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I’m guessing it’s the ZF because they used it on the 406 until it’s demise, on forums they call it AL4, but that’s almost meaningless.

Cé hé sin > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 15:56

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According to Google, it’s actually by Renault and is also called the DPO. It’s also notoriously unreliable I’m afraid.

My citroen won't start > Cé hé sin 08/17/2016 at 16:00

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God damnit.

Probenja > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 16:06

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The C5 only really works in Europe, and if that... My neighbour had a 1st gen and it was constantly having issues, it looks cool when it’s raised up though.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > My citroen won't start 08/17/2016 at 16:47

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Manual swap...? :O

Shift24 > duurtlang 08/17/2016 at 17:45

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Normal starting in France is 5 weeks. The US 2 maybe 3 if your lucky

Leon711 > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 08/18/2016 at 03:35

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When us Brits go on strike, we make signs and chant things, when the French do it, there’s guaranteed to be at least a riot and a fire. The French are the world leaders in striking.